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Bringing Order Out of Chaos To the Restaurant Scene
[Posted September 16, 2006]

The proliferation of eating establishments in West Chester is good news for people who like to dine out. At almost any hour of the day, you can find a wide variety of food choices simply by walking down the street and reading menus posted in the windows. But at peak times your restaurant-of-choice may be full up, and people with food allergies or other specific needs may have to look for a while before finding the menu that suits them. A local entrepreneur has created a simple way to locate a restaurant -- a new web site called WestChesterMenu.com.

The entrepreneur, Chris Dima, is a 1996 graduate of West Chester University who moved away to learn about information technology and moved back after his marriage because he liked the town so much. When he's not bicycling to his day job at Moody's Economy.Com, or jamming in his home studio with his musician friends, Dima enjoys the Borough's parks and naturally, its restaurants.

 West Chester direction-finding sign with Where to Eat
graffiti

Earlier this year, he learned of the existence of WestChesterMenu.com and after making some inquiries, decided to buy it. According to Dima, "Every day at my office, come lunch time, everyone scrambles for menus. After a bit of observation, I thought, it would be much more convenient if everyone had every restaurant's menu available right at their computer."

Since then, he has added information on more than eighty local restaurants and special food destinations -- places like Eclat Chocolates, Fennarios, the West Chester Scoop and the Soft Pretzel Factory -- to the site. The restaurants are organized by meal -- i.e. places that serve breakfast, lunch and dinner -- and each listing includes a map and directions to the restaurant.

Currently, Dima is working to include up-to-date menus on the site. "I thought that, for the most part, people tend to order from the same few restaurants over and over. If they could look at a menu without having to walk to the restaurant, people will be more inclined to try something new." He invites restaurant owners to purchase space on the site just like an advertisement, and in exchange, gives them a professional-looking listing and takes care of updating it every time their menus change.

According to Dima, the site is already getting about 600 visits a month and he just signed up his first customer. "I think more and more people are moving away from using static resources like the Yellow Pages. What makes this site unique -- and will ultimately make it successful -- is its focus. I want WestChesterMenu.com to be the absolute best resource for finding something good to eat in West Chester."

Some of the choices
montage of West Chester restaurants

This Sunday's Restaurant Festival will introduce thousands to the Borough's dining options, and WestChesterMenu.com is ready to help them find their way back.


Council's Busy Night
[Posted September 21, 2006]

Last night at their regular voting session, Borough Council managed to hold seven public hearings, honor four long-time employees, introduce the new Elm Street manager, host debates on two contentious items, and approve a "Consent Agenda" was 23 items. Most remarkably, they achieved all of this within ninety minutes despite the presence of nearly one hundred members of the public.

To begin with, most of the crowd came out for the public hearing on ordinance 14 of 2006: the anti-discrimination code that creates a West Chester Human Relations Commission to assist with the resolution of disputes and complaints. Council passed it by a 6-0 vote (Holly Brown was absent), and thereby joined more than a dozen other communities who have reworked their ordinances to offer protection beyond what the state already offers. Additional details on its provisions are available in today's Daily Local News article, but the buzz in the crowd concerned whether or not counter-protesters and/or television news crews would show up for the meeting. Neither did (although one person reported received a phone call at home urging him to speak against the ordinance at last night's meeting), so after a few speakers voiced their support, several Council members did the same, the vote was taken and the issue was closed.

That came in the midst of public hearings to alter the Borough's flood plain map, add the 100-block of E. Miner Street to the permit parking program, revise the trash citation process and to name an alley after retiring police sergeant Thomas Yarnall. There was also a hearing for an ordinance that requires developers to contribute money towards the Borough's parks and recreation program -- expect an article devoted to this item alone in the near future.

The evening actually opened with an introduction by Shirley Porter, president of the East End Neighborhood Association, who presented Josh Barker, the new Elm Street manager, to Borough Council. Barker is a native West Virginian who recently served as the Main Street manager in Martinsburg, and who replaces Geoff Brace, who left last June for a position closer to his hometown in the Lehigh Valley. Like Brace, Barker will work closely with the East End Neighborhood Association and the Business Improvement District to use funds from the state's Elm Street Program to revitalize the neighborhood located roughly between S. Matlack, Bolmar, Market and Union Streets.

Following that, Borough Council recognized four employees for twenty years of service. Police Chief Scott Bohn was employed as a patrolman in 1986, the same year that chief police dispatcher William Mann, treasurer Doug Kapp and codes enforcement officer Mike Perrone were hired. All four men were there, along with members of their respective departments, and Council members plus the mayor offered their congratulations and comments about their achievements. The list was long, but one item seems particularly worth repeating here: Last year, Officer Mann (who doubles as the Borough's information technology specialist) supervised the planning and coordinated the construction of the Borough's new emergency services communications tower. In addition, he acquired grants to cover all but about $8,000 of the $130,000 project -- a spectacular achievement in the world of municipal grant writing. Perhaps Council president Paul Fitzpatrick expressed it best when he said "For the first couple of years, I thought there were two [Officer] Manns because it seemed like he was involved in everything." [NOTE: WCJIM had a similar experience a few years ago, and adds his congratulations to Officer Mann and his three colleagues.]

Josh Barker (left) with Steven Graves of the East End Neighborhood Association
 Elm Street Manager
Josh Barker and Steven Graves of the East End Neighborhood
Association

Award winners (l-r) Bohn, Kapp, Perrone and Mann
 Recipients of awards for 20 years of service to the
Borough: from left to right, Chief Bohn, Treasurer Kapp, Codes
Officer Perrone and Officer Mann

The two contentious issues were a HARB decision concerning a small piece of outdoor carpeting installed in the entrance to the Jaramillo hair salon at 104 E. Gay Street and the process of choosing a redeveloper for the Mosteller garage site. The hair salon's owner installed a piece of carpet to cover what she claimed was damage left over from last year's fire, and after it came to the attention of the HARB (Historical and Architectural Review Board), they recommended that it be replaced with something more appropriate to the historic district. Council members evidently had a tough time with this one because they split three-three, throwing a decision to the mayor for the first time since he was elected five years ago. Citing "philosophical principles" and the options provided in the Borough Code, he opted not to break the tie, but instead to send it back to Council for another vote at next month's meeting (when, hopefully, an odd number of members will be present).

With regard to the redevelopment project, the issue was whether to notify the developers that two of them -- Teres Holdings and Zukin Realty -- are on a short-list. As several Council members pointed out, such an act takes no one out of the running, but it does allow the other two developers to decide whether they want to invest any more time and/or money into trying to get the job. After a few public comments, Council approved the shortlisting by a 6-0 vote.


A Victory for Borough Taxpayers
[Posted September 24, 2006]
It's not often that people get emotional over the actions of Borough Council, and when they do, it's usually because Council has either corrected a problem or done something stupid. Last week's passage of Ordinance #12 of 2006 was justifiably overshadowed by the passage of Ordinance #14 -- the anti- discrimination ordinance -- but it offers a unique prospect for generating benefits to the Borough by making real estate developers pay part of the costs of servicing their developments.

Ordinance #12 (a.k.a the "recreational fee-in-lieu" ordinance) revises the Borough's Subdivision & Land Development Code (Chapter 97 of the complete Borough Code) "to require new residential subdivisions or land developments to provide for recreational facilities or a fee in lieu of facilities." In other words, it enables the Borough to charge developers an additional fee and apply the resulting revenue to the Parks & Recreation budget. The ordinance creates a new source of revenue for the Borough: one that comes from people who will presumably make money from their work in the Borough, rather than from Borough taxpayers themselves.

developer's plan
One of many proposals presented
to Council this year
This is no small accomplishment. The Borough's sources of revenue are limited by state law, and the trend in recent years has been for the state and federal govenrment to require more services from the Borough without providing the means to fund those services. Ordinance #12 is based on an obscure section of state code (Section 503.11 of the Municipal Planning Code, or MPC) which allows local governments to require developers to provide recreational facilities for new projects, or to charge them a fee to be applied to creating or maintaining such facilities elsewhere. In plain English, this section of the MPC recognizes that communities consist of more than houses, developers have a responsibility to provide "complete" development projects, and if there is some reason why it can't be done at the same time as housing construction, the local government can collect an equivalent amount of money and use it to provide recreation facilities elsewhere.
But how much should a developer be expected to provide, and how much can the Borough collect in recreation fees? The rather complicated answer to that question was presented by town planner Tom Comitta (husband of Council Member Carolyn Comitta, Dem, ward 5) at the February PZBID meeting. National town planning standards prescribe seven acres of park land for every 1,000 people, so with a population of about 18,000, the Borough requires 126 acres (18 times 7). In fact, there are only 42 acres of parks in the Borough -- Hoopes Park is the largest with just over sixteen acres, Everhart Park is second with just over ten and Marshall Square is third with 5 acres -- so the Borough is "short" about 84 acres of park land.

If the land were available, it would cost about $18 million to purchase 84 acres of land in the Borough at current market prices. On the other hand, the 2002 Urban Center Revitalization Plan (UCRP) proposed about $8 million worth of park projects for the Borough. Rather than expose the Borough to the risk of a legal challenge to the validity of a fee based on the higher number, Comitta proposed dividing the lower number by 4,300 -- the number of residential units in the Borough -- to reach a figure of $1,250 for the "recreation facility deficit" per housing unit or per 2,000 square feet of residential space. That compares favorably with the fee in Concord Township ($2,300 per unit or 1,500 square feet of residential space) and Uwchlan Township ($2,000 per unit).

 Map showing West Chester Borough's wards and parks
Borough parks are shown in green on this map
The idea of a "recreational fee-in-lieu" ordinance is not completely new. It is already used in Charlestown, Coatesville, South Coatesville, Edgmont and Middletown Township, as well as Concord and Uwchlan Townships. What is new is the current version of the MPC (approved by the state legislature in 2000), which includes sections that were written with the help of Comitta's company. That explains why he was able to identify something that completely escaped the Urban Revitalization Task Force (authors of the UCRP) back in 2002, and it shows the value of putting people with as many different areas of expertise as possible to work on a project. [Disclaimer: WCJIM was the Planning Commission's representative to the Urban Revitalization Task Force, and he feels pretty sheepish about not spotting this possibility. In defense of the Task Force, it reviewed several thousand pages of reports, proposals and legal codes, but never realized that the 99 pages of the MPC contained a half page that authorized an alternative to new taxation.]

The rest of the story consists of volunteerism and timing. After discovering the loophole in the MPC, Comitta wrote a draft ordinance for Council to consider and assembled 21 pages of supporting documents from the UCRP, MPC and the 2000 Comprehensive Plan -- all without charge to the Borough. Upon hearing his presentation at the February PZBID committee meeting, the members recommended its adoption 3-0 to the full Council, and a week later they authorized the Borough solicitor to prepare an ordinance based on Comitta's draft.

For the next several months, the ordinance made its way through committee meetings and public hearings while everyone with an interest in Borough finances held their breath. That was because under state law, an ordinance cannot be made retroactive, so any developer who filed the papers to start the approval process prior to the passage of the ordinance would be exempt from its provisions. By state law, however, Borough Council must conduct all business (except that dealing with land acquisition, employees or legal action) in public meetings, so the "recreational fee-in-lieu" ordinance appeared on the May 16-17th Borough Council agenda (item #10) and again at last week's meeting (item #4), when it was approved by a 6-0 vote (Holly Brown, Dem, ward 1, was absent).

To summarize all this, and to explain why those of us who heard the original presentation back in February were so excited, a Borough resident donated his time and expertise to find a loophole in state law that allows the Borough to charge developers a fee that will help to offset the cost of the additional services that their projects will require from local government. Every dollar that comes from developers is one less dollar paid for by resident taxpayers. Although this ordinance won't eliminate the rather knotty budget problems faced by the Borough, it is a significant victory in the struggle by local governments to balance budgets within the legal constraints ordered by Harrisburg.


Group Discusses Student-Resident Relations
[Posted September 27, 2006]
On Monday evening, September 25, borough and university officials met with residents and student leaders at the first Town-Gown meeting of the school year. Town-Gown meetings started back in 1993 and provide a place where residents and students can meet represenatives of the Borough and University police, WCU student affairs administrators, various elected Borough officials, and a wide (but varying) range of student leaders.

This month's meeting included Mayor Dick Yoder and councilwoman Carolyn Comitta, eight members of WCU student government including president Kyle Mullins, plus police representatives, WCJIM and one other resident from Sharpless Street. Highlights of the meeting included remarks from Mayor Yoder, a discussion of student concerns about the SIP (Source Invention Program), and a video showing how WCU students spent over 185,000 hours volunteering in the community (from West Chester to New Orleans) during the 2005-2006 school year.

There are always interesting facts presented at Town-Gown meetings. During the first four-and-a-half weeks of the current semester, West Chester police arrested 269 people aged 18-25. Half were from WCU and half were not, but "95% [of the arrests] are alcohol-related." That number is forty percent higher than during the same period in 2004-2005. The WCU police representative reported 106 citations since last July (and 208 during the spring semester), of which most involved alcohol.

Officials at the Town-Gown meeting (as well as the President's Advisory Council on Alcohol and Drugs, which met the next morning) agreed that there is a national epidemic of alcohol abuse, and to a lesser extent drug abuse, among young people. It seems unlikely that anyone is going to change that -- anymore than you could convince people aged 18-25 from giving up the use of automobiles -- so the answer has to involve responsible drinking. That begins with neighbors serving as good role models, adequate educational opportunities about how to drink, and sufficient enforcement to make sure that everyone adopts responsible drinking habits. (Note that some times "responsible drinking" means "no drinking," such as when operating a motor vehicle.)

Back to the Town-Gown meeting ... the University has a lot going on to help students live responsibly off-campus: last week's SIP presentation by police and district attorney repsresentatives last week, an on- campus safety forum by WCUPD and WCPD next week, and assorted efforts to keep this weekend's Homecoming Weekend (Sept. 29-Oct. 1) focused on campus.

WCU's student groups have their own initiatives. OCCA, a group that serves off-campus and commuter students, distributed free donuts and juice to residents and students in September in an effort to get them to mingle. The SGA leaders described several long-term plans to increase student involvment in the Borough, and promised to have rperesenatives attend Borough and West Goshen meetings regularly.

Town-Gown Council meets roughly once a month at 7pm in Sykes Student Union during the fall and spring semesters. The next meetings are scheduled for November 6 and December 4. They are open to the public and offer a good place to find out what the University and our town's two police departments are up to. They also offer an opportunity to make an impression on student leaders, and to sort out truth from rumor about student-resident relations.

WCU Student Government President Kyle Mullins
WCU Student Gov't President Kyle Mullins

poster with details of Source Investigation
project
SIP (Source Investigation Project), which started in State College and came to West Chester last spring, has been renewed this fall

balloons line the railing at Sykes Student Union as
WCU students prepare for homecoming
WCU prepares for Homecoming Weekend, Sept. 29 to Oct. 1


Height Discussion Draws a Crowd
[Posted September 29, 2006]
On Wednesday evening, September 27, the Planning Zoning business & Industrial Development Committee of Borough Council (better known as PZBID), hosted a public workshop to encourage discussion about the height of new construction in the Borough. Urban planner Tom Comitta hosted the meeting, which took place at the West End Entertainment Complex (the former Italian Social Club) on Hannum Avenue west of Wayne Street. It attracted a large crowd and held most of them for four hours as Comitta, aided by Borough manager Ernie McNeely, guided the participants through a series of exercises designed to get everyone to think about what they want to see in a large building, and in the center of our town.  the particpants at the Sept. 27 height workshop
By the time the event got underway, there were more than sixty people in attendance, and within a few minutes that number grew to over a hundred. Borough developers were well-represented by Stan Zukin and his "team" (son Scott plus assorted family members and consultants), Ray McCool and his sons, Brian McFadden, at least one representative of Teres Holdings (whose proposal for a hotel received the most favorable comment at an earlier public meeting of this type), Eli Kahn (builder of the Moodys-Economy.Com building at the corner of E. Chestnut and N. Walnut Streets), and a number of realtors, consultants and architects.

Borough government was well represented by Mayor Dick Yoder, all seven members of Council, two former members of Council (Diane LeBold and Bill Scott), plus the Borough Manager, Ernie McNeely. About a dozen members of the Borough's voluntary boards and commissions -- Business Improvement District, Historic Architecture Review Board, Zoning Hearing Board and Planning Commission -- were there, including WCJIM (who serves on the Zoning Hearing board), and there were plenty of downtown business owners, neighborhood group representatives and individuals who came on their own. The "development community" were definitely in the majority by the end of the night, however, and several non-developers commented on that during the course of the event. As one observed, "the reason that so many developers and bankers are here is because they are working. They are trying to make a buck."

Although there was a potential for conflict, Comitta ran a tight meeting and in the process, may have educated a few people. Instead of holding a public hearing at which people gave speeches supporting their point of view, Comitta asked the participants to evaluate photos of architectural details, proposals for height limits, criterion for building approvals and options for new zoning laws. Then, after people had made their choices (on forms collected after the meeting for analysis), Comitta chose representative individuals to explain their thinking. As a result, the crowd got to hear Stan Zukin claim that "height is necessary to preserve history," his son Scott say "We have to be very careful not to make West Chester a dusty museum," developer Eli Kahn say "In order to create a balanced community, not just restaurants, ... we need to go vertical," and First National Bank president Kevin Quinn warn that if the height limit proves too constricting, his bank, which is in the process of expansion, may "have to look for growth somewhere else."

The crowd also heard former Council president Bill Scott say "We've received awards for years, not for what developers are proposing, but for what we've already got. We need smart growth." Planning Commission member Roy Smith stressed that "Historic preservation is economic development" and HARB member Bill McLaughlin warned against "any attempt to say economic development means we have to sacrifice historic preservation. ... [With the historic downtown] we have an attraction that will always bring economic development to our area."

After two hours, everyone took a break, but when the group reconvened at 8:15pm, nearly two thirds remained. During the second half, they ranked various possibilities for new height limits and various ways to redistribute them between the center and east end of town. At one point, WCJIM spoke in support of a proposal to allow the tallest buildings in the corridor between Market and Gay Streets east of Matlack Street, as a means to generate economic development in a part of town that needs it, to ease development pressures on the already crowded downtown, and to promote a walkable town by creating a third center of development to complement the existing "historic center" and the new "government center" on W. Market Street. It would also address concerns about defacing the Borough skyline, since the land east of town is much lower than land in the town center.  Tom Comitta addresses the crowd at the September 27
height workshop
Tom Comitta
By ten o'clock, about half of the original crowd had gone, but as the remaining forty-nine filed out, most commented on how valuable the meeting had been. They also left behind piles of questionnaires which will be examined and collated by Comitta's staff for use by Borough Council. About a half dozen people left at the same time to walk to their respective neighborhoods, so the conversations continued even after the meeting was over.

It remains to be seen how Borough Council will use what they heard on Wednesday night, but there is no doubt that they were listening and even willing to offer their own views. The discussion will continue, most likely at next month's PZBID meeting, so keep an eye on WCJIM's local government page for agendas and the news page for updates.

See the History of Borough Council's Building Height Initiatives and the December 2006 proposal.


Paul Fitzpatrick Joins "Talk About West Chester"
[Posted October 4, 2006]
"Talk About West Chester," the public affairs show which has aired on the West Chester University radio station (WCUR 91.7FM) for the past several years, has added a new cohost. His name is Paul Fitzpatrick, and for the past seven years he has served on Borough Council including two terms as Council president. In that capacity, as well as his involvement with Business Improvement District, the regional Council of Governments, the West Chester Film Festival, St. Agnes Church, and other groups, he is in a position to know more about what's going on around West Chester than almost anybody else alive.

He joins Jim Jones, a.k.a. WCJIM, the author of this web page, past and current member of various boards and commissions, and a well-known local historian. With Jones' knowledge of the Borough's past and Fitzpatrick's knowledge of the Borough's present, the two men offer a unique perspective on what's happening in our community.

Fitz (left) and Jim in the studio
Paul Fitzpatrick and Jim Jones, cohosts of "Talk About West Chester" on WCUR 91.7FM, every Thursday 8-10:00AM

The show, which airs from 8-10:00am on Thusday mornings, will also feature guests that include local business people, government officials, neighborhood activists and anyone with an interesting story to tell. Although the schedule is flexible, their goal is to spend an hour each week with the guest and the other hour talking about things that have been in the news or will soon be in the news.

According to Fitzpatrick, "I'm looking forward to working with Jim in an informative atmosphere like that on Talk About West Chester." Jones added "I'm thrilled to add Fitz's knowledge and sense of humor to the show.

Among the guests already confirmed for this fall are the director of the Borough's Parking Services, one of the founders of the Northwest Neighborhood Association, the chair of the West Goshen Planning Commission and a former political reporter for Town Talk. Recent guests included the Borough's "trash czar," representatives of both major parties' youth organizations, and a WCU professor who recently spoke to the government of the African country of Sudan (home of Darfur, the troubled region that appears regularly in the news).

Jim has more than thirty years of on-air radio experience including shows on two West Chester stations. "Fitz" has been a guest on the show before, as well as host of his own show on another station for much of the past four years. The two men are friends as well, and cohosting a radio show is just another way to extend that friendship, as well as to share their enthusiasm about the Borough of West Chester.


Antiques Roadshow in West Chester
[Posted October 9, 2006]
Last week, West Chester University joined with WHYY-TV in Philadelphia to present a program that took the audience "behind the scenes" at the Antiques Roadshow. Now in its tenth season, Antiques Roadshow is one of the most popular programs ever offered on public television, and a huge hit with history- minded folks around West Chester. The program, which took place in the Philips Autograph Library at WCU, featured a short presentation on the rare volumes in the library's collection followed by a longer session hosted by Dr. Donald H. Cresswell, proprietor of The Philadelphia Print Shop and a regular appraiser on the Antiques Roadshow.

Following introductions, Dick Swain, the director of WCU's Library Services, spoke about a number of the rare volumes in the University's collection. The collection was donated by William Py;e Philips, son of by George M. Philips, the fourth and longest-serving president of WCU's predecessor, the State Normal School, from 1881 to 1920. Swain described how the elder Philips collected authors' signatures -- in person when he could, or by sending them a copy of their own book to sign plus the postage with which to return it. Often, that resulted in some remarkable acquisitions, such as a work by Robert Louis Stevenson after he had moved to a South Pacific Island. Swain provided a display of some of the most notable items -- works by Helen Keller, George Bernard Shaw and Frederick Douglas. He also described five other items donated by Philips -- copies of the first four Shakespeare folios from the 17th century -- and how WCU faculty use them to inspire their students' interest in Shakespeare.

Then Cresswell took over. He structured his presentation around the most frequently asked questions that he receives about the Antiques Roadshow. After explaining that the Roadshow came to Philadelphia last August to film shows that will begin airing on January 22, 2007, he described the lottery system used to trim the 28,000-plus applicants, and contrasted that to the first year when the show's organizers sat around hoping that someone would show up.

There are sixty to eighty appraisers at each show. Although most are from New York and Los Angeles, the show uses local appraisers too because many times they are most knowledgeable about locally-produced objects. For example, a show filmed in Phoenix, Arizona would be likely to attract examples of Native American crafts, and specialists in this crafts are most likely to reside in the Southwest. Cresswell's specialty is old prints and maps, which includes everything from Currier & Ives art prints to 16th century navigation maps.

 WCU's Dick Swain shows off some of the autographed
volumes in the University's collection
Dick Swain shows off some of the Philips Autograph collection

 Antiques Roadshow appraiser Don Cresswell at WCU's
Philips Autograph Library
Antiques Roadshow's
Don Cresswell (left)

People with artifacts first pass a "triage table" where staff identify their item and direct them towards the appropriate appraiser. That is not always as simple as it might seem, since an old advertisement with an image of a baseball player might be considered either a historic print or sports memorabilia. If an appraiser thinks that an object might be significant, he asks if the owner is willing to go "on camera." This has to be done with revealing the object's value, since the shows' producers want the owner's on-camera reaction to be genuine. If the object's owner is willing, then the producers make the final decision on whether the person and their object will be filmed. They consider things like the person's dress (no political T-shirts or revealing clothes), whether they have shown a similar item in the past, and how many other segments they have already filmed. If the producers agree, then the owner will be asked to wait until a sound stage becomes available to film the type of segment that everyone knows from the show. As a result, it could take several hours from the time a person arrives at the Roadshow until they and their object has been appraised and filmed.

Although Cresswell repeatedly mentioned the long days and fast pace, he also described how much fun he has on the show. "I love the people and the country," said Cresswell, as well as the opportunity to visit local museums and galleries with members of the cast. His best memory was of two shows in Portland and Los Angeles which he reached by train from Philadelphia. He added that none of the appraisers get paid, but instead view their time and expenses as part of promoting their regular business. Cresswell explained that there are strict rules, however, that prohibit the appraisers from using their position on the show to acquire business. The most they can do is leave their business brochures on a table near the exit and hope that people who need their services will contact them after the show.


 

Copyright 2006 by Jim Jones